From news-central.tiac.net!news-in.tiac.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.252.116.190!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!netcom.com!hausmann Sat Dec 7 08:18:27 1996 Newsgroups: aus.flame,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.flame,alt.usenet.kooks,austin.flame,alt.fan.speedbump Path: news-central.tiac.net!news-in.tiac.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.252.116.190!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!netcom.com!hausmann From: hausmann@netcom.com (John Hausmann) Subject: Palmer's vision of the "Noble Coolie" (very long, Palmer re-posts) Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 08:49:25 GMT Lines: 292 Sender: hausmann@netcom15.netcom.com Xref: news-central.tiac.net aus.flame:18907 alt.fan.karl-malden.nose:37368 alt.flame:78774 alt.usenet.kooks:20229 austin.flame:24532 alt.fan.speedbump:1304 Included, for your perusal, are copies of posts made by Biil regarding "coolies". And for those that truly appreciate irony, Biil's quote 'After all, these are flame groups, and don't we all wax offensive at times here?' in the post <534qpu$9v8@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> is particularly delicious, nest ce pas (don't worry Biil, we know you don't)? I've included *EVERYTHING* you need to know to find your very own copy in DejaNews, should you be so inclined. Now grab a bowl of popcorn, kick back and enjoy. It's showtime (BTW, this is not meant to be an all inclusive list nor is every item the complete post. But then again, if you want the complete post I've already told you where to get it. And, for those interested in other "potential" slurs, "grease spot" and "bean" have possibilities). [[begin Wild-n-Wacky Biil's vision of "coolies"]] Subject: Re: Zanca: Too Stupid to Locate Proof of His Own Ignorance From: wilhelp@ix.netcom.com (Bill Palmer ) Date: 1996/03/29 Message-Id: <4jgih2$nsk@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> Another fantasy from scorched coolie, Pustular Zit. The only place you "whip my ass" is in lying and making ig- norant pronouncements; but then, Woof Davis whips YOUR ass in both those areas, so don't let what I say give you a swelled head, Zanca. __________ Subject: Re: Dumpster Rodent's Flash of Brilliance From: wilhelp@ix.netcom.com (Bill Palmer ) Date: 1996/10/07 Message-Id: <53bq7h$k54@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> >--Pinhead the Beetledick: I shudder to think of the whiny > drivel that will emit from beneath the rock where our > quivering Coleoptera coolie makes his abode. __________ Subject: Re: Palmer "Peals" Peevish Leek! (A) From: wilhelp@ix.netcom.com (Bill Palmer ) Date: 1996/10/06 Message-Id: <5390dp$fou@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> References: <844155346.454008@suburbia.net> <5303rf$2a3@dfw-Ixnews8.ix.netcom.com <5352eh$f9e@sjx-Ixn4.ix.netcom.com> <5359c5$t5r@dfw-Ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> Organization: Netcom X-Netcom-Date: Sun Oct 06 12:14:01 PM PDT 1996 Newsgroups: aus.flame,alt.fan.karl-Malden.nose,alt.flame,alt.usenet.kooks,austin.flame In pinhead@coastnet.com (Pinhead the Cenobite) writes: > >In article <5359c5$t5r@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>, wilhelp@ix.netcom.com >says... >> In Wotan writes: >> >> In which Mealy Rat Wotan seems more spiteful >> than usual--could it be that he resented my >> exposure of his little stunt earlier today >> when I caught him actually manufacturing >> "errors" in a previous post of mine? Make >> no mistake about it folks, John "Woof" Davis >> and the pseudonymous dumpster rodent, Wotan-- >> are madder than a pair of hornets. The Woofster's >> libels are flowing faster than ever, and in just >> the past couple of days Wotan has resorted to >> plagiarism and creating punctuation "errors" to >> malign me over. But, they are "wonderful people"-- >> they will vouch for one another's "character and >> integrity". Just ask them... My, my, and here comes another of 'em to "vouch" in whining, falsetto tones: There he is, folks. The cowardly Coleoptera of USENET--the one, the only, PINHEAD THE BEETLEDICK! (A six foot tall beetle in a coolie's straw hat lugs a rickshaw onto the world stage. Halting, he lets go of the rickshaw handles, turns toward the audience, and bows low--very, very low.) >> > >> >In article <5352eh$f9e@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>, >> >Bill Palmer pointed out: >> > >> >>This is telling, Ms. Peal, because it gives you away >> >>as someone lacking the confidence to even try and >> >>defend her position. In "Palmer 'Peals' Peevish >> >>Leek [A]" I rebutted a number of fallacies and >> >>misconceptions you seem to have been laboring >> >>under in your previous articles to me. That you >> >>choose not to set out one shred of counter-rebuttal >> >>makes it crystal clear that you knew you didn't >> >>have a leg to stand on in the first place. And now the Coleoptra coolie in the straw hat will offer, in whiny tones, another excuse to Ms. Peal for her utter failure to take a stab at defending her unsupportable criticisms of me and my parody. (Oh, yes, and of course, Pinhead the notorious ignonoramus imitates the dumpster rodent and the Woofster in insulting all the "Palmers" on the planet.): >> > >> >Rather hypocritical of Palmjob to question someone else's integrity >> for >> >ignoring his rather monotonous postings. Another ridiculous charge from the rickshaw pulling coolie of the Net, Pinhead the Beetledick. My questioning someone's failure to answer a rebuttal is perfectly appropriate. Despite the dishonest moans and groans from you and a few of your fellow members of "The Bill Palmer's Flame Victim Rights Committee", Pin, I have always met any reasonably well-stated challenge head on. Of course, "reasonably well-stated" leaves out some of the blathered and absurd allegations of you and your fellow patients in the metaphorical "burn units" of alt.flame and a.u.k. >> Ms. Peal, I would suggest that you don't let >> the dumpster rodent who can't spell "considering" >> put the stamp of his approval on your less than >> straight-forward posting habits. > >Bill the Hypocrite strikes yet again. No surprise, really... Sounds to me like our cowardly Coleoptera, Pinhead, is again plugging the little fantasy favored by Mealy Rat Wotan and Libel Artist Woof--to wit, that even though the three above-mentioned morons exhibit an ignorance of spelling principles, show a feeble grasp of grammar and punctuation, and utilize the vocabulary of the "language pauper"--somehow, just somehow, (they absurdly argue) my couple of typos every few hundred words puts me in the same barely- literate bag with themselves. T'was NEVER thus, Pinhead. Pinhead left out the fact that I was (below) referring to invertebrates (such as Wotan) who try to spead the notion that it is okay to be a coward about one's posting behavior: > >> That's what they do; they try to proselytize. > >*IRONY ALERT!* > >> I'm sounding a word of warning on the Net... > >Even though no one asked you and no one cares. Take it from the Coleoptera in the straw hat, Pinhead the Beetledick! ______________ Subject: Re: Lamin' Louse-monkey (Song) From: wilhelp@ix.netcom.com (Bill Palmer ) Date: 1996/10/05 Message-Id: <534qpu$9v8@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> References: <52joqq$8mt@dfw-Ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> <52k2dg$8b1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <52k95u$9tl@dfw-Ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <52km6b$nmj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <52l9eq$3ih@dfw-Ixnews11.ix.netcom.com> Organization: Netcom X-Netcom-Date: Fri Oct 04 10:13:34 PM PDT 1996 Newsgroups: alt.flame,aus.flame,alt.fan.karl-Malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,austin.flame In pinhead@coastnet.com (Pinhead the Cenobite) writes: > >In article <52l9eq$3ih@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com>, wilhelp@ix.netcom.com In addition to the his usual spiteful but ludicrous whines (which have become so repetitious, and which remain so poorly-done that they deserve no comment) Pinhead the Beetledick drools an insinuation that rankles me for its unusual unfairness. [...] >> Let me caution you: The >> Louse-monkey proves incapable of developing >> his thoughts; so he tries to impress folks with cheap >> little zingers, often of the one- or two-sentence >> variety. > >Better that than the long-winded self praise with which you lavish >yourself in almost every post you make. [...] > >> John is, and will remain, a coolie. > >You can apologize for your racial slur now, Billy... Listen, you politically correct lamebrain. Don't you dare try and disappoint my many Chinese friends by insinuating that I slurred them in any way. You know very well that in slang English a "coolie" simply means a lowly individual. In that slang usage, it has nothing at all to do with anyone's race or ethnicity. For instance, when a worker, complaining about his pay says, "They pay us like coolies," the speaker is merely using slang to make his gripe more vivid. In slang English, "coolies", "peons", and "peasants", and "serfs" have special meanings quite apart from their noble origins. Must we be so politically correct that when someone says of an ill-mannered, uncouth individual (who has lived in a North American city all his life), "He'll never be anything but a peasant,"--all people of non-noble, European descent feel slurred due to the correct (non-slang) meaning of the word? After all, these are flame groups, and don't we all wax offensive at times here? But, esteemed Coleoptera, it is easy to understand why my slang term piqued YOU. After all, your posts reveal you as more a home-grown coolie, even, than the Louse-monkey. You, Pinhead the Beetledick, are the original rickshaw-pulling coolie of cyberspace...Now, "Gee-up, fellow!" copyright FLAME GIANT > > >> copyright FLAME > >-- > >You are more than the sum of what you consume, >Desire is not an occupation, >You are alternately thrilled and desparate, >Skyhigh and FUCKED. > -Nicole Blackman: Dogma > >Pinhead@coastnet.com | Official KMFDM Representative. >Check out the all new Pinhead Unofficial KMFDM HomePage! >http://www.coastnet.com/~pinhead ______________ Subject: Re: Palmer "Peals" Peevish Leek! (A) From: wilhelp@ix.netcom.com (Bill Palmer ) Date: 1996/10/08 Message-Id: <53d3a8$g24@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <844155346.454008@suburbia.net> <5303rf$2a3@dfw-Ixnews8.ix.netcom.com <5352eh$f9e@sjx-Ixn4.ix.netcom.com> <5359c5$t5r@dfw-Ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <5390dp$fou@sjx-Ixn4.ix.netcom.com> Organization: Netcom X-Netcom-Date: Tue Oct 08 3:27:52 AM CDT 1996 Newsgroups: aus.flame,alt.fan.karl-Malden.nose,alt.flame,alt.usenet.kooks,austin.flame [...] They certainly are, with the exception of a few of your fellow misfits, such as Wotan or the Woofster. Most of us are far, far above a lowly figure such as yourself, Pinhead. We are so far above you, we can see you down there bowing and scraping like a coolie. And we laugh at your whining and absurd existence on the Net, Pinhead...(snicker) [[end inserted Palmerisms]] Now what was that bit about "noble"? Oh, and Biil, there are 105 posts in Dejanews that deal with "coolie" out of your 2884 to date. Now most of them are merely re-posts of prior messages. Let's be kind and say that only 10 contain racial/ethnic slurs. 10 posts divided by 2884 comes up with the number 0.00346740638 which is a significantly higher percentage than you've been claiming. Now, we all understand how you strive to be accurate/precise so we can only hope that you'll use the revised percentage. Does anyone know Biil's favorite phrase for evidence, like the above? Hint: He'll be claiming "re-post con". Whatever that means. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some Biil Palmer jokes for everyone: 1) any Biil Palmer post. 2) Q: What do Biil Palmer and Mark Fuhrman have in common? A: Neither one has used a racial/ethnic slur. Just ask their friends. 3) Q: What else do Palmer and Fuhrman have in common? A: The letters "A", "R", "M". 4) A quote from Biil, himself: 'I have used a "racial" or ethinic insult against anyone in my over one-million posted words. <57ngk8$q8r@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> wilhelp@ix.netcom.com'