From news-central.tiac.net!news-in.tiac.net!news-in3.tiac.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-5.sprintlink.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!newspump.sol.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!netcom.com!hausmann Sun Dec 1 10:23:11 1996 Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet,news.admin.censorship,alt.usenet.kooks Path: news-central.tiac.net!news-in.tiac.net!news-in3.tiac.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc-5.sprintlink.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!newspump.sol.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!howland.erols.net!netcom.com!hausmann From: hausmann@netcom.com (John Hausmann) Subject: Re: Net Libel: Where Are the Limits? Message-ID: Followup-To: alt.culture.usenet,news.admin.censorship,alt.usenet.kooks Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <57buot$bqk@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com> <57m39h$cp2@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <57mi81$9a6@news-central.tiac.net> <57nab0$3as@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> <57ngbc$c51@news-central.tiac.net> <57non1$1mf@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 06:02:24 GMT Lines: 150 Sender: hausmann@netcom14.netcom.com Xref: news-central.tiac.net alt.culture.usenet:10845 news.admin.censorship:17305 alt.usenet.kooks:19333 Bill Palmer (wilhelp@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : In <57ngbc$c51@news-central.tiac.net> rogerw@tiac.net (Roger Williams) : writes: : My refutation of the dishonest blather of Cockroach : Roger Williams, that he spewed out on behalf of the : monstrous ".sig libel" campaign continues. (Since : Roach Roger's 17k spew of lies and libels was too : long for the preferences of most readers, I am : serializing my rebuttal.) : > : >Bill Palmer (wilhelp@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : >: In <57mi81$9a6@news-central.tiac.net> rogerw@tiac.net (Roger : Williams) : >: writes: : > : > : >: You ARE a slime-dripping liar, Roger. You know very : >: well that I have NEVER insulted any person on the : >: basis of his or her ethnic origin. : Cockroach Roger Williams was peering up from his : sewer, ready to spew additonal libelous slime! : And of course a gutter-dwelling cockroach of : Roger William's "calilber" would not hesitate : to insult all Palmers on the planet. : > : > You are a backpedaling douchebag, Palmjob. I know full well that : >using images like "coolies" amd "rickshaws" is patently stereotypical : and : >offensive. : Not in the slang way I made those two or three references : in my over one-million words you gleaned trhough to find : them, Cockroach Roger. It was no more racist than when : a speaker of any race says, "I'm going to get out of : this department; the boss thinks I'm a rickshaw pulling : coolie," or when someone calls a person a farmer and : tells him to go shovel his horseshit. THAT is : the "foundation" of the monstrous ".sig libel" : campaign, Cockroach Roger Williams. You and your : suybhuman, singed cronies take a few words out of : one million and manufacture a "racist" from them. : That's the key to the ".sig libel" scheme. Actually, Biil, there is no scheme. Just your words. Like the following: I have used a "racial" or ethinic insult against anyone in my over one-million posted words. <57ngk8$q8r@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> wilhelp@ix.netcom.com I've never posted any insult to any ethnic group--but I'm not going to let the politically correct "thought police" buffalo me into a situation where I fear my every fifth word might be twisted out of context to misrepresent my point of view; you know, sort of like if I say "paddy wagon," someone wails that I'm disrespecting Irish folks. <536igj$bpq@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> wilhelp@ix.netcom.com My, my, and here comes another of 'em to "vouch" in whining, falsetto tones: There he is, folks. The cowardly Coleoptera of USENET--the one, the only, PINHEAD THE BEETLEDICK! (A six foot tall beetle in a coolie's straw hat lugs a rickshaw onto the world stage. Halting, he lets go of the rickshaw handles, turns toward the audience, and bows low--very, very low.) <5390dp$fou@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> wilhelp@ix.netcom.com (Bill Palmer ) No one said you had to know the original forger's intent. If I find a counterfeit one-hundred dollar bill on the sidewalk and I spend it, knowing it is counterfeit, then I am guilty of a crime. Whether or not I know the intention of the counterfeiter is irrelevant. You posted knowingly posted the forgery; you are as guilty as the forger, Louse-monkey. <56rsqv$g72@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> wilhelp@ix.netcom.com (Bill Palmer ) I used "coolie" in keeping with one of the word's recognized senses--one explained in the OXFORD DICTIONARY as a meaning having nothing to do with race. I did make a mistake, though. I called Hausmann a "coolie" and I've come to find out he is much more of a "prole." (To politically correct assholes: Please spare me the lecture on the joys of "proledom.") <56rag8$il0@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> wilhelp@ix.netcom.com (Bill Palmer ) : Translation: Being an active participant in one : of the biggest and foulest defamation campaigns : in the history of the Net, Cockroach Roger has : advice for the victim on what to do and say. Embrace the truth, Palmer. It shall set you free. : > : >: You know well also : >: that Xemblinosky twisted a statement that I have : >: made to many before him into an ethnic slur when it : >: wasn't. Your only purpose for popping up here : >: is to support one the foulest defamation campaigns : >: in Net history, Roach Roger Williams. : Now we get more "advice" from .sig libelist, : cockroach Roger Williams. I'm all ears, Roach : Roger: : > : > Please, feel free to play the role of the poor martyr here : Palmjob- : >it's just one more worn out role for the most predictable dipshit the : >flame groups have ever seen, including Keegan. You know, I'll bet you : >Raoul would be man (compare and contrast to, say, you for example) and : >actually FORGIVE you should you simply apologize for your race laming, : but : >that might be raising our hopes a little high. : Unbelievable! On the basis of less than a half dozen : words out of over a million that they deviously : misinterpret, they smear me all over the Net as a racist. No, Biil. Your actions define you as a racist. An honest poster would've apologized and moved on. You didn't. An honest poster, when confronted with truth deals with it. You don't, you run from it. : Now that I have been (and am actively BEING) slimed by : them as a "racist" to thousands of not millions or readers, : they want an APOLOGY? No apologies to sewer rats, : Raoch Roger, nor cockroaches; and that includes : every ".sig libelist." I think you'll have a real hard time making a case of it, Palmer. Should I present your quotes to the .soc groups and ask them their opinion of you? : Well, that's it for this one. I remind all readers : of the real purpose of the monstrous ".sig libel" : scheme of scorched and vengeful losers Louse-monkey : Hausmann; ranting racist and plagiarist, John Davis; : Cockroach Roger Williams; Poltroon and Eunuch Xemblinsoky; : pinhead; "princess" Peal and others: 1) Hijacking my : true indentity as a human being and replacing me with a : racist" of their own foul invention (in the minds of : thousands of readers), 2) making the Flame Giant the : biggest target on the Net. You're not a racist? Apologize, publicly for your slurs. As for making you anything, it's all your own doing. : "On Wordscreens of the World" Not yet, Bucko, not yet. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some Biil Palmer jokes for everyone: 1) any Biil Palmer post. 2) Q: What do Biil Palmer and Mark Fuhrman have in common? A: Neither one has used a racial/ethnic slur. Just ask their friends.